Breaking Down The Sugar Diet and Our Thoughts

Welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast with Jerred Moon and Joe Courtney!
This week’s episode dives deep into one of the most bizarre dietary trends to emerge in recent years—the sugar diet. Yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like: loading up on sugar while slashing fat and protein. Jerred and Joe break it down with real talk, research, and a healthy dose of skepticism.

🍭 What Is the Sugar Diet?

In short, the sugar diet is a high-carbohydrate, ultra-low-fat, and protein-restricted protocol. Calories come largely from:

• Sugary fruits and juices

• Table sugar

• Candy

• Processed carbs

Protein is tightly controlled, and fat is nearly eliminated. Proponents (like Mark Bell, former carnivore-turned-sugar enthusiast) claim rapid weight loss, fat burning, and increased energy.

🧪 The Study Behind the Hype

Study: Dietary Protein Restriction Elevates FGF21 and Energy Requirements to Maintain Body Weight in Lean Men
Key Concept: When protein is restricted, FGF21 (Fibroblast Growth Factor 21) rises. This hormone:

• Increases energy expenditure

• Uncouples mitochondrial function in fat cells (making them inefficient and burn off more energy)

• Results in weight loss—even while eating more calories

Sounds like magic, right? But Jerred and Joe aren’t sold.

“It’s not the sugar. It’s the protein restriction that triggers this response. Sugar is just filling the gap.” — Joe

🧠 Why the Body Responds This Way

Jerred draws a fascinating parallel to gluconeogenesis, the body’s process of turning protein into glucose during low-carb dieting. Similarly, when protein is restricted, the body adapts with inefficient fat-burning through FGF21.

“The human body is incredible. It adapts to almost anything—but that doesn’t mean we should push it to extremes.” — Jerred

⚖️ What’s the Risk?

While short-term weight loss may occur, Jerred and Joe raise several concerns:

• Muscle loss due to protein deprivation

• Unsustainable eating patterns (candy, soda, Sour Patch Kids… seriously?)

• Metabolic cost — anytime weight drops fast, something else usually pays the price

• Unknown long-term effects — especially for metabolically unhealthy individuals

🧬 Juice Cleanse or Biohack?

Joe compares the sugar diet to a prolonged juice cleanse, with one key difference: at least juice has micronutrients. The sugar diet? Not so much. Plus, there’s no agreed-upon protocol or timeline—just vague promises and a lot of sugar.

🚫 Why We’re Not Buying It

Jerred and Joe aren’t against dietary experiments. They've tested carnivore, vegan, keto, and everything in between. But this diet crosses a line.

“I’ll experiment with almost anything. But high sugar, low protein? Not a chance. The risk-to-reward ratio isn’t there.” — Jerred

And they caution others: don’t compare yourself to fitness influencers like Mark Bell, especially if:

• You’re not on TRT or PEDs

• You’re not metabolically healthy

• You’re not getting regular bloodwork

✅ What to Do Instead

For long-term health and performance, Jerred and Joe recommend:

• Adequate protein intake to maintain muscle mass

• Low to moderate carbs based on your personal tolerance

• Healthy fats to fill in the gaps

• Clean, whole foods — meats, fruits, veggies

“It’s boring, but it works. That’s what we believe in.” — Jerred

🧪 Want to Experiment?

If you’re still curious about the sugar diet:

• Keep it short-term (think: 3–7 days max)

• Monitor your bloodwork closely

• Track your performance, weight, and energy levels

• Make sure your protein isn’t too low for too long

But ultimately, the Garage Gym Athlete crew recommends staying away from extreme protocols unless you're well-informed and ready to deal with the consequences.

🎙️ Final Thoughts

This episode is a reality check on trendy diets and internet fads. Just because something “works” doesn’t mean it’s healthy, sustainable, or smart.

If you want a research-driven, no-BS approach to fitness, nutrition, and performance…

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And always remember:
If you don’t kill comfort, comfort will kill you.

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Podcast Transcript

Jerred: [00:00:00] This is and gentlemen, welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast. Jerred Moon here with Joe Courtney. Courtney, what's up Joe? Doing? Yeah, it has, I'm doing well except for I'm a little bit annoyed in all honesty that we're doing the podcast that we're doing today. Uh, but we have to, so we're gonna be talking about the sugar diet today.

I thought I was getting punked, didn't you? I think I sent it to you and you were like, is this, is this April Fools like, um. Or maybe, maybe I'll send it to someone else. And they said that, but dude, I, I totally thought the sugar diet was good. I thought this was like,

Joe: like another, what'd you think when I sent it to you?

Craze thing where they like almost not quite as bad as like the Tide pod thing where people were eating Tide pods, but like along the lines of just like something stupid that somebody put out and other people were like, oh, hey, yeah, we'll just follow this and be, be trendy.

Jerred: Yeah. Um, I did not look too much into the origin of the sugar diet, [00:01:00] uh, because to be honest, I don't really care. We do have some studies and if anybody's wondering like, what, what the hell are you talking about? What's the sugar diet? It's exactly what it sounds like. Uh, you eat a bunch of sugar, you eat high carbohydrate diet.

Um, and everyone's doing it a little bit differently, but it's like. Somewhere north of like 80% of your caloric, uh, breakdown is going to be carbohydrates and predominantly through sugars, a lot of fructose. Um, but I mean, people are eating candy, drinking juices, um, those kind of things. And then. You heavily restrict fat, um, and then you lock in protein to some amount.

Um, someone, the, the reason this is gaining a lot of popularity is Mark Bell. I was on his podcast a number of years ago, um, and he's really big in the, in the, uh, you know, fitness space. Um, you know, former like powerlifter, uh, you know, and he was really big on the [00:02:00] ketogenic diet and doing all that kind of stuff, carnivore.

Um, and now he's on the sugar diet, complete opposite, uh, direction, and he's reporting all these things of like. He's on the sugar diet and he is losing weight and fat and he loves it and it's great and, and all this stuff. So I think he's the, the main driver as someone who's really big in the industry. I think he's the main one who's like pushing, not like he didn't invent it, he got it from somewhere else, but like, I think that's the reason it's gaining a lot of, uh, attention right now, um, is just a sugar diet.

So it is what it sounds like you can do your own research on how you, if you want to try this. Um, you can do your own research on how to implement that. That's not what this podcast is about. This podcast, it's more about kind of breaking down the sugar diet and kind of our thoughts on it. Um, and Joe found a pretty interesting study, um, called Dietary Protein Restriction Elevates FGF 21 Levels in Energy Requirements to Maintain Body Weight in Lean Men.[00:03:00]

Um, so I'll go ahead and let you, uh. Gimme your thoughts, man. I mean, whether it's sugar diet or the study or anything. Just let's talk sugar diet. So, so what do you, well, I mean, people

Joe: call it the sugar diet and I mean that's sort of like the, it's almost like a, I don't really wanna say bait and switch, but that's like the hook to get people into it.

But the actual benefit, it's, it's not from eating sugar. And when they say sugar, like they were saying like, table sugar is fine. I'm like, what the hell? How is that nutritious at all?

Jerred: Everything, man. Like I was watching, people are putting like. Sugar all over bananas and then drinking orange juice with it.

I'm just like, it's, and I'll, I'll admit my own bias here. Okay. So like, I'm open to new things. I really am. I keep an open mind. Like if you tell me this is the new thing, I, I'm never shut anything down. I'm like, okay, well let's, let's talk about it. Let's research it. Um, but IWI am struggling with this one.

I'm keeping an open mind, but I'm struggling [00:04:00] with it as someone who's. Had a lot of issues with, uh, carbohydrates, like too high carbohydrates. Um, and then also, um, you know, I had some like blood sugar issues, you know, back in the day, all this kind of stuff going low carb significantly helped me. And we've always said that diet is high, highly individualized.

So I'm not saying that sugar diet is good or bad, but ultimately I am, I'm struggling with keeping my open mind on this one because of how crazy. Yeah. And I think that it is.

Joe: As I Did you wanna talk about the study or, or other thoughts right now? First?

Jerred: Yeah, we, I mean, we can talk about the study. Um, it's like the only thing that,

Joe: kind of, the main thing that I wanted a little bit of credibility, I guess.

Yeah, go ahead. Or thought where it's like, oh, okay, that's, that's the actual, this is the only, like how or why that this could be something that works, but it's still isn't enough and that, and so the study, um, it's just restricting a ton of protein and that's why something happens. I forgot what the element is.

[00:05:00] OFG. FGF 21. FGF 21. So whatever that does it, um, for a fasting out of like, get rid of your protein, it increases that which causes your energy expenditure, I believe, to, to go up. And that is what causes the weight loss because fgf FGF 21 is, is elevated.

Jerred: Yeah, that's a hundred percent. And that's what I, that's what I was looking for too, in. You know, what was the, what's the mechanism here of like, why, because people are doing the sugar diet and they're saying it works. And I'm like, why? And there's one argument where, uh, and people make this argument with a carnivore diet is, is like, yeah, when you cut out one major macronutrient outta your diet altogether, you're gonna lose weight.

You know, you're, you're gonna see results. And I was like, okay, is this the same mechanism here? People are just like. Eating no fat or you know, basically no fat. But we've, we've already [00:06:00] tried that, like that, that's already been like the low fat diet like craze in the nineties and, and early two thousands, like that was all the rage.

Go low fat. Everything was low fat. Um, and so I was like, are we just cutting a macronutrient here? And, and that's the case. But this study specifically is pointing to it being. Fibroblast Growth Factor 21, which I had never heard of before. Uh, I mean, not that I should have, I'm not a scientist, but being around in, in like just the fitness and nutrition industry for a long time, I'd never heard of this.

Um, but apparently what it, what happens is, uh, when you restrict protein, not when you eat a crap ton of carbohydrates to Joe's point, it's not, oh, eat 800 grams of carbohydrates. And now you've hid the mechanism for weight loss. It's more specifically saying there's a significant increase in FGF 21 levels during protein restriction, and when that increases, it makes fat cells, um, less efficient [00:07:00] to where they actually start burning off it.

It uncouple their mitochondria is the, the technical term. So that like uncouples their micro mitochondria and then they start basically. Burning off and, and they are specifically using, I'm not saying burning off, like as a coach who's like, yeah, burn off some fat. They were using that terminology in the study, which I found interesting.

And I was like trying to dig in more to it. And it's because of the way that it actually, um, the mitochondria gets uncoupled, which I found interesting. It was like. Uh, no, I'm, I'm getting at just like some, some parts of, of, uh, you know, chemistry, biology, I don't know, but like some, like the proton pump or something on the fat cell is less efficient.

And so like, it, it actually is kind of like dying off or whatever. Like it's, it's releasing energy becomes, because it becomes inefficient. It's not an efficient way to burn fat. It's making it inefficient so it like burns off and I was like, okay, so we like specifically burning fat here. 'cause that's like a hard thing to do.

Did you. I [00:08:00] actually figure out some sort of secret. Um, and I think one major thing to note is this study was done on, on healthy individuals who are not like morbidly obese or anything like that. So just keep that in mind before we go any further. But here's the interesting thing is what this reminds me of is the, the, the human body.

Is an amazing, amazing creation, right? Like it's just amazing. It can do so many things. Like we're constantly healing ourselves, repairing ourselves. We're doing all this crazy stuff. And when we don't give our bodies certain nutrients or macronutrients, our bodies have evolved enough to do different things.

Like it is just an amazing piece of machinery that we all have, right? This, this human body, it's, it's incredible. And. Whenever you force these stressful diets, and that's what I'll call 'em, stressful diets on the body, the body's like, bro, I got [00:09:00] like thousands of years of like, you know, whatever, human evolution, whatever you wanna call it.

Like, I've been through it all. Like I, I can. I can adapt no matter what you eat, no matter what you do, I can adapt to it. Like this is me thinking how the human body works. And when we went through the carnivore, extremely low car carb diet, um, we're specifically looking at gluconeogenesis, right? Like that was the, the term like the, the buzzword for several years.

Glucco Neogenesis. And what gluconeogenesis is, is when you refuse to give your body carbohydrates. Your body being the amazing thing that it is, takes protein and turns it into a carbohydrate. It's incredibly inefficient. It's very hard for the body to do, but your body can't live without carbohydrates.

And so it makes its own, it's not something that's like, oh yeah, let's just go do some gluconeogenesis. It's very hard for the body to do. It would prefer not to do it, but it will do it if you force it to. And that's what happened in the carnivore, [00:10:00] extremely low carb diet. And now we're like on the other side of that.

We're like, okay. Let's give you really, really restricted protein, give you a crapton of carbohydrates. And now this is the new Glu gluconeogenesis, in my opinion. It's like, okay, we have this fibroblast growth, hormone growth factor 21, FGF 21 levels increase. It uncouples the mitochondria in a fat cell and basically.

It starts to burn fat. It doesn't, and it, the, the scientific literature says itself, this is an inefficient process. Not necessarily dangerous, just an inefficient process. Just like gluconeogenesis. Not an efficient process, but your body can do it. So when your body is stressed out, you're not giving it enough protein.

It's like, don't worry, I, I can handle basically anything you throw at me. And so then your body figures it out and it goes through this process. My point in saying all of that. Is just like, why? Why do we have to, like, why can't we just eat like a normal person? You know what I mean? Like the, why do we have to [00:11:00] go to all these extremes?

I don't care if it's sugar diet or carnivore. I don't want some rarely known chemical or compound or human process. To be stressed. Going back to like our caveman days when they couldn't eat, you know, like for, for days at a time or whatever. I don't, I don't need to like call on my ancestry that hard for a mechanism that's inside of my body that no one even knows about, to be able to like lose weight.

Like, are we really at that point, is that even necessary? That's ultimately like my main, like, what, what the hell are we doing as a human species? Like why is it that thing? Yeah.

Joe: I think when all these extreme. Uh, nutrition protocols, diets, and, you know, the, uh, the stress diets you're talking about is they always try to like cite an older civilization or indigenous population that ate a cer this certain way and how it did for them and whatnot.

But I'm, I feel like there's, if you go back far enough and you were take a year out of someone's life in that same year, those people were probably. Uh, for a couple weeks they could have been a [00:12:00] carnivore for a couple weeks. They were probably a vegetarian a couple weeks. They were probably high sugar. A couple weeks.

They were probably high fat just 'cause it's just whatever was available. And that's. It goes back to your point of the body's adapting 'cause it's using what it has. But we don't have to do that anymore. So that's why, you know, we can just take a more moderate approach and not these crazy protocols. And like my next thought for, for this diet and say for saying a high sugar is like.

And I, and I couldn't find the, the difference between what this is and what a juice cleanse is or does. 'cause the juice cleanse is basically just high sugar.

Jerred: Hmm. Yeah. It's,

Joe: and you're drinking everything, but you're, it's, it's a whole lot of sugar. There's not much protein, not much fat, and people do juice cleanses to really shed fat.

But like I. It's a cleanse and it's not sustainable for very long. I didn't see anywhere on the sugar diet if how long you're even supposed to do it, if it's considered like a short term protocol cleanse type thing. But I still couldn't figure out what the difference between this and a juice cleanse is.

But at least with the juice cleanse you're getting like micronutrients [00:13:00] 'cause you're doing juice and even like you're juicing vegetables. You're not just eating table sugar and sour patch kids and drinking juice, drinking soda, I mean.

Jerred: Well, that's what was blowing me away when I first heard about it. I was like, because it was the, it was funny to watch the evolution of the carnivore diet, just from like our perspective where they were like, your body only needs meat idiots.

You're all idiots. You only need meat. And then, uh, what's that guy? He's like the big, like, uh, salad. Paul something. He, he's like the, the md, the carnivore doctor, whatever. The Paul, I don't know. It doesn't matter. But he, no. So, yeah. I don't know. I know people know who I'm talking about, but I barely know.

That's right. Know who I'm talking about anyway. Yeah. He was like, yeah, you only need meat for years. And then he is like, well, actually, I'm gonna eat some honey and some fruit. And it's like, it was just funny to see all the carnivores bring carbohydrates back in their diet, but because they're doing it with like, uh, fructose and, and [00:14:00] honey and every, they're like, no, no, no.

It's, it's okay. It's okay because these are still natural sources. I'm like, you're just eating. A normal diet, now you're getting protein from your meat, fat, from your meat and carbs, from your fruit. Like you're, you're just eating a normal, healthy diet now, which is what every, like you and I have been talking about for years.

Like that's, that's what we think that you should eat and you just do it in a little bit more strict form or fashion and the sugar diet. When I first heard about it, I was like, okay, well maybe they're just eating like fruit and honey and like maybe at least like it, it's. Clean, right? Like clean sugar and what you just said, sour patch kids.

That's, that's what people are doing. They're like, let's drink a bunch of juices, which I, I just can't get on board with. Let's eat a bunch of candy. It's just, it's crazy to me and I don't like, I get it. So the, the most interesting part of this study was when you restrict, um, when you restrict the protein.

They had to eat more money, [00:15:00] uh, money. They had to eat more, uh, calories and they still lost weight. Like they, because of this like incredibly inefficient process. So like they're eating more, they're eating a lot more, but because they've restricted protein and the mitochondrial uncoupling is such a powerful process that they're able to eat more and they're still losing weight, which is just, which is crazy to me.

'cause you know what else happens when, like someone's sick or they have cancer is like, is. It's like rapid weight loss. Like that's one of the main, like things where you're starting to get concerned is like, did you lose a lot of weight for no reason? Uh, and I'm not saying that it's dangerous like that, but it's like it's, is it that rapid to where like, this is concerning, you know?

Um, 'cause I feel like there's, in any capacity, just what I know, like on my, uh, on the, the coach who's been doing this for, for so long is like, anytime that something happens too fast. There's a metabolic or biological cost, even if we're unaware of it right now, there is a cost. [00:16:00] There's no such thing as an easy button.

Like all the stuff with Ozempic, like I've just been kind of watching and waiting, like I don't really know. I'm like, I've heard both sides of the story. It's perfectly safe. It's fine. But then there's the other side where o ozempic is like crushing your, your bone mineral density and like, uh, you know.

Eating all of your muscle mass away and like ultimately it's, it's not good. But I'm not, I'm not taking a stance on that. I'm just waiting that one out. Like on, on the ozempic side, typically when things happen fast, there is some sort of metabolic or biological consequence. And I feel the same way here.

It's like you might end the short term, shed fat, lose weight, but what happens if you do this for two years? I don't know. And I don't know. I will never experiment with this one. I've tried every single diet out there. I've done low carb, I've tried carnivore, I did vegan. Uh, just a normal diet. I've tried them all.

This one I won't touch just because I know, uh, like my body does not respond well to high carbohydrates. And the fact that this [00:17:00] study specifically is done on healthy people and all the people on YouTube and the internet who are doing it seem to be metabolically healthy. They're got all this information out there while they're not trying to be harmful.

If someone is very metabolically unhealthy and a hundred pounds overweight and they start the sugar diet. I don't know what happens. Like say they're, they already are prediabetic resistant. What happens when you start shoving 800 Gs of carbohydrate? Yeah. Like what, ha what happens then? I don't know. I don't wanna find out and I don't wanna be a part of it.

Um, I just can't see. I'd love to get like some, like Ben Bick man's, um. Thoughts on this specifically? Um, maybe he's done some content already, like that's someone I'll be paying attention to, um, as the sugar diet gains more popularity. But I think this is wild. I wouldn't touch it. I won't try it. Uh, and that's just has to do with me specifically.

It's not 'cause I'm closing minded towards a new diet strategy, but this one's pretty wild and I can't, I can't get on board with it. I'm not, I'm not gonna give the shot. Most thing outcome is a cleanse

Joe: and that would have an end. An end. I'd probably only do it for like a week just to see what happens.

And I know that [00:18:00] after that. Yeah. Yeah, those are typically a couple days. And I've done done like a bone broth cleanse before where all I'd had is bone broth for like 48 hours. And it was great, but like, I'm not gonna do that for a long period of time. I need, I still need to eat. Um, another thing that reminded me of this, so because of the, after I got that study about the, the protein part about, okay, this low protein is triggering, this is, it made me think of something I heard about like 10 years ago, and that was protein fasting.

But that is like a one to two day thing where. You are going, it's almost like the, um, think keto, but with, but with protein, you're going like 15, 20 grams of protein in a day and that's it. And it does something with, I didn't look too much into it, but I know protein fasting is a thing and they, some people will do it with like, one day I.

Of the week. And it does, you know, there is, uh, some evidence, I guess that there's inflammation, um, fat loss, um, I, I, improvements, stuff like that. So that's sort of maybe like I'm, I'm just trying to do like the mental gymnastic as to [00:19:00] how and why this low sugar or the, this, um, sugar diet became a thing. But if you just peel back and, and think about the, the more of the actual logic of it, like maybe if you really wanted to see how.

This sort of thing would go just do like a protein fast for a day and work in a protein fast, maybe once a week, maybe once every other week, and see how that goes. Just to see if there is a benefit to having interspersed low, low protein, but you at least you're still eating normal food, not just sugar.

Jerred: Yeah, and I mean, how long it's taken the fitness industry to get everyone to understand the importance of a high protein. Diet. Uh, and we're there. And now we're like, actually, no, no, no. Don't, you don't eat protein if you actually, if you wanna lose weight. And that's been the main thing. If you wanna lose weight, you're supposed to have a higher amount of protein.

'cause it's, uh, more metabolically demanding for your body to process and digest protein and it spares your muscles from [00:20:00] having to, um. Like waste away essentially. Like, and that's what I'd be afraid of here is, uh, muscle loss specifically. And here's the deal, um, I don't know much about Mark Bell. I do know he has been on steroids, a significant portion of his life.

He's very open about it. So I'm not throwing any shade. Uh, I'm not, I'm not aware of his current situation. Okay? So whether he's on TRT or still doing steroids, I have no idea. Um. But that's just something to keep in mind. When you look at somebody like Mark Bell and you're like, he's doing the the sugar diet and he's crushing it.

If he's building muscle mass somehow on a hundred grams of protein when he is over 200 pounds, body weight, like. Maybe it's a chemical compound he's injecting in his, in his butt. May, maybe it doesn't have a lot to do with the diet. You know, I don't, I we have to like look at all aspects of this before you go off and be like, yeah, I'm as someone who's maybe not that metabolically healthy and I'm not on TRT or steroids.

I'm gonna try this diet. I just [00:21:00] cannot get on board with it at all. Like, I just don't see how you do that. But hey, if you're taking loads of loads of TRT or some version of steroids, um, and you are metabolically healthy and you want to shed a couple pounds of fat. Give it a shot, see what happens. I would definitely do blood work during the entire thing, um, and see, see, see how things shake out.

Especially your like, uh, your A1C specifically and like your blood glucose levels and everything else. Like I'd, I would, I'd be doing blood work. I. Every two to three months on a diet like this. Just, yeah, I, I did watch this

Joe: full video. He, he said he's on peds. He didn't say which one. He just said that, you know, I, I am on this.

Um, so that was one note that I put that he's on that, and I mean, also the fact that, you know, he's jumped from keto to carnivore to this seems like he's just jumping around for, I don't know, for content's sake, just to see how it is. Um, so that's another thing to consider.

Jerred: Yeah, and I, I mean, I think, I honestly think he's a genuine dude and like, um, I, I just [00:22:00] think he likes to try things out and experiment and that's, that's fine. Um, I got no, no issues there. I just think if you ever look at someone as an example for what you're gonna follow, you have to ask yourself, how close am I to the actual example?

That I plan to follow, like my lifestyle, my like what I'm doing, all those kind of things. You have to take all of that into account. So just something to be mindful of. Not that everyone here is like paying attention to Mark Bell and like. What diet he's on. But anyway, that's where I first heard about it was Mark Bell.

And then I dove in more. Um, and it was just crazy. I also, you know, Zach Bitter, uh, he's low carb. He sent, uh, some information out on the sugar diet, not, I don't think he's doing it. Um, he's been low carb athlete for a long time. And his big thing has been like metabolic flexibility, like utilizing carbs when they're really needed.

So anyway, um, there's a lot of information out there. I've kind of given my thoughts on it. Um, I, I wouldn't touch it. And I think that there's always gonna be a metabolic cost and our bodies [00:23:00] can really adapt to things. Almost anything you throw at it, um, that doesn't mean that you should necessarily do it.

So if you're looking for like the long haul approach to your diet, what should you be doing? Getting enough protein. I wouldn't be restricting it. And then. Low to moderate carbohydrate based off of what your body can handle. And then the fat fills in the gaps. Like that's what we've always been preaching here.

Like it's very, I know that's not sexy and it's not, um, polarizing so it doesn't get as many views or clicks, but that's, I, that's my honest belief on what your diet probably should be if you are looking to just be a healthy human. Eat clean fruits, vegetables, meats. Like, and, and that's it. It's boring though.

Yeah. I mean,

Joe: sometimes you just, maybe you wanna try something to shake it up, but, uh, no, I, the, the, the mo the, the closest thing I do is, like I said, like a bone broth cleanse if I really want to like, clean out my, my guts.

Jerred: Yeah. All right. Well that's [00:24:00] it on the Sugar Diet. Um, let us know what you think. If you're doing it, you're trying it. I'd love to hear some more anecdotal one-off here. And theres of, uh, the sugar diet. I really want to hear about it gone wrong. Like every diet, there's always a diet story where it didn't go right.

I want to hear some of those as well, but I, I just feel like I'm sitting in this camp a lot lately where I'm just like, Hmm, that's interesting. Let's see where this plays out in five years. Like, I feel like that about TRT right now, like, um, and. I wanna, I'll just hit on that real quick. Like, I'm not as concerned for guys who are like in their forties, who wanna get on TRT, like, or, or your fifties, whatever.

Like, I, I, I don't care like that. That's fine. In honesty, if your levels are low, it could be like affecting your life to a significant portion. Maybe you do wanna get on TRT. Where I think there's a huge problem is all these like influencers who are trying to come up in the world and like get some footing.

They're like 23 years old going on TRT. That I can't get on board with, like, your [00:25:00] body's producing the most testosterone I could possibly be doing at 23 years old. Like, why do you think that you need it? Um, and, and it's, they're just basically doing it to grow bigger muscles, to look better for Instagram reels so they can get more clicks.

And I think that's such a, such an unfortunate situation all this fitness industry has turned into. So that's, that's where like I have a big problem with TRT, not on the, the aging population who might just like, need it like. There, there are pros and cons to it. Like you, you can do your math there, but like the, the 23-year-old, 24-year-old who's on it, that's, that's psychotic to me.

But that's one camp where I'm like, all right, we'll, we'll see where this goes. That 23-year-old in 10 year, 10 years, let's see, see what happens to him. And then I, I feel the same way about this. I'm like, well, well, let's, let's see what happens with sugar diet. See if it's even something we're talking about in 18 months, or if it got completely debunked by like, you know, some of the best in the, in the industry.

Definitely we'll see. Definitely only time will tell

Joe: bold strategy. Cotton, let's see if it pays off.

Jerred: Exactly. That's how, that's how [00:26:00] I feel like that's my, that's gonna be like the new Garage Gym athlete quote. Uh, but we'll get outta here. Thank you everybody for listening and doing the training. We really appreciate each and every single one of our athletes.

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