RECAST - Pre Exercise Music Can Increase Power and Velocity

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RECAST - Pre Exercise Music Can Increase Power and Velocity

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RECAST - Pre Exercise Music Can Increase Power and Velocity


  • This is a recast from over 2 years ago!
  • The team discusses music and its effects on power and velocity
  • They do a book review on Fiber Fueled
  • They also talk about our Meet Yourself Saturday workout Broken Arrow
  • And A LOT MORE!!

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Podcast Transcript

Jerred: [00:00:00] All right. I've got something a little bit different for you today. We are going back into the archives to republish an episode. This is something we do very rarely. I think I've done this one other time in garage gym athlete podcast history. And I only do that when, something is new or it's getting.

It's getting more traction or more downloads than, than normal. And just on the back end of the podcast stuff, just like fitness, I'm very into the data, the metrics. And so I'm always looking at that stuff in the podcast. And for the longest time, our most popular and most downloaded podcast episode has been episode 28, how to burn fat.

And that makes sense to me. A lot of people want to know how to burn fat. They want to know how to lose weight. And that's always been the most downloaded. So people are probably searching it and finding it. And in that we do go over the scientific way fat is actually burned. We also talk about zone two training a lot.

That's a lot of where that conversation originated at Garage Gym Athlete. And so I think I [00:01:00] have republished that one other time. So it's original published date and then republished it because it was gaining so much popularity and traction. But an episode that just overtook that one as the most popular is now episode 103 pre exercise music.

Can increase power and velocity. And this is from two and a half years ago. So even if you have been listening to the podcast for the last two and a half years, it'd be good to catch up and re listen to this one. So a little bit longer format than our more recent podcast at garage, gym, athlete, and more people on the show.

But this one was published, like I said, two and a half years ago. We do talk about music we get into the ins and outs of different types of music and how it can help you increase your performance and how you can utilize music better in fitness. So I think a lot of people are interested in that and that might be the reason it's taken the number one spot.

Bye. As the most popular and most downloaded episode here at garage gym athlete. Also in this episode, we go over a book review.[00:02:00] The book is fiber fueled, really awesome book. If you haven't read the book or if you're thinking about reading the book, definitely listen to this review. Cause I still, two and a half years later, really enjoyed that book and have implemented a lot of its principles.

So without any further ado, let's get into. Pre exercise music can increase power and velocity from two and a half years ago. Enjoy.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Moon. The Garage Gym Athlete Podcast is a result of my desire to build better humans, unequivocal coaches, and autonomous athletes. I've spent the last several years obsessing over program design, nutrition, and every other way you can optimize human performance.

This podcast distills the latest scientific research with what I've learned and blends it with the not so scientific field of mental toughness We are here to build you [00:03:00] into a dangerously effective athlete If you enjoy this podcast You can find out more about our training at garage gym athlete calm And if you want to pursue more into the field of coaching and programming head to end of three fitness calm.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the garage gym athlete podcast Jared Moon here with Ashley Hicks, Jill Courtney, and Kyle Shrum. How's everyone doing today?

Joe: Not too bad.

Jerred: CSE.

Kyle: Fantastic.

Jerred: There we go. I was hoping Kyle would say something. We have a lot to cover today. We are getting into a study on music and how it can maybe hurt your performance, maybe help your performance, maybe keep it the same.

I don't know. You're going to have to listen to find out. And we're going to be talking [00:04:00] about a very controversial book within the team. Only within the team. It's not controversial, um, outside of this podcast, probably. It's called Fiber Fueled by Dr. Will Bolzewicz. And so we will talk about that book.

And then we'll go over the workout for all of our athletes or anyone who wants to join. We are currently in week one. Of training at Garage Method for the new cycle. So all athletes, that's where you're starting. We have the hard to kill track with the new sandbag and kettlebell variations. And if you want to get in, you want to get involved, do it.

Go sign up for a 14 day free tryout at garagegymathlete. com for all our other athletes. Just stay consistent. Do the damn workouts. All right get the green dots and you're going to see a lot of results. But let's get into the science here. I don't think we're really cutting through any bro science today.

It's more just [00:05:00] like. uncovering kind of the bro mentality. Is there any efficacy to what you're actually doing in the gym? So we're gonna be talking about music. The name of the study is Effect of Pre Exercise Music on Bench Press Power, Velocity, and Repetition Volume. This study was conducted in 2021 on 10 men with an average of seven years of training experience.

And at a training frequency of at least two to three days per week. Here's my breakdown of what they did just to make it simple. There are three sessions, session one, they maxed out session two or three. It could have been either. I think they, they divvied it up, but it was, they worked out without music.

And then they worked out with music. All right, that was session two and then session three. And the with music, a couple of things to note, they only listened to it during the warmup or in between sets. And also the music was [00:06:00] self selected and had to be at a tempo of greater than 120 beats per minute.

Now, I don't know how many beats per minute Any of the songs that I listen to are, so I have no frame of reference for what that is. Ashley might be able to help us with that.

Ashley: NF is probably, it just depends on the song.

Jerred: Yeah, is that like really fast paced, or is that like medium?

Ashley: It's not, over 120 beats a minute is getting into the faster,

Joe: yeah.

It's close to, most electronic is there, dubstep seems to be around 140. Yeah, it's up there.

Jerred: Okay. All right. And that's about it. That's all I'm going to cover for now we could get into the results, but this was a very easy study. The takeaway is very easy. So we can just jump right into it.

I'd love to hear your thoughts for pre exercise music on performance.

Joe: One thing that I saw a part of the studies that they had to have the song on loop, [00:07:00] which would suck. After a while I used to be in the camp of like back when I did the bodybuilding stuff, it was basically each set, I would change the song.

I would have to listen to a new song almost every set. And it was just so into the into the music or dependent on the music. But now I've gotten to the point where I pretty much just listen to the same two, maybe three playlists. And it's just there. Also just. And I studied, as you said, it's simple.

So I've already done this where I'll listen to music during rest and not during certain sets. And whenever I like video myself on my phone or like going for PR, and one part of the thing on the study was they weren't sure if it would actually help you for PRs. It was just like a The sets they were doing were, yeah, reps on 75%.

I when I squat or do any kind of PR, I, and I'm videoing it, my music is cut off because it's hooked up to my phone, but my phone is videoing. And when you're videoing, you can't do music at the same time. So it obviously hasn't affected those because I just got a squat PR and I've done [00:08:00] PRs in the past with videoing without music.

It's just while before I'm listening to my music, I think it's the takeaway is that like I'm dialed in between my sets. And the music helps you get in your own zone. And then when you step up to the bar, as long as you're not like super easily distracted, I think it is beneficial. And this is just one of those things that I guess it just, it can help your either whether internal or external mindset toward on your set and phasing out everything else.

And then when you get up to do your set, there you go. But that's all

Jerred: I got

Joe: two phones. Yeah, if back when I had my garage gym, I could use my iPad because it was just right there. That's what I do. Yeah. Kyle.

Kyle: So I said a long time ago on the podcast and have been reminding everyone ever since that Metallica increases gains.

Joe: Especially if you air guitar right before you step up to the bar.

Jerred: [00:09:00] Which I do. I'm gonna Google Metallica beats per minute real quick. Do look up Fuel by Metallica. That one is in there. there. Over 9000. Now. 220, goodness.

Kyle: I'm just so happy that the science actually backs me up on that. Metallica does increase gains.

So there you go. I could just stop there, but I'll keep going.

Jerred: They have a song called Nothing Else Matters that, beats per minute of 46. So it's a slow ballad. Not that one. I'm guessing that's not on the workout for a minute. Does not matter. All right. Just, it is a phenomenal

Kyle: song though.

Okay. So it doesn't invalidate how good the song is just not for training. So I would say, so they were talking about the breakdown that we. That we read as well was talking about with powerlifting meets and things like that. And I remember the powerlifting meet that I did. They had music playing.

It was all metal, all of it. There was nothing else [00:10:00] that was played and it was loud and all that. But during people's. Attempts like they would turn the music down and you also weren't allowed to like, have your own earbuds in listening to your own stuff and all that kind of, you could, when you were waiting on your turn, but when you were up there doing your attempt, then it was just, whatever it was playing while they were changing weights out and stuff like that.

And then they mentioned that as well, but I would say. With training, if you're training for something specific and you're using music and all that kind of stuff, um, if you're training for like an event, if you're doing like a powerlifting event, or if you're going to be doing some kind of long endurance event, and you're allowed to listen to music while you're doing endurance and all that kind of stuff, I would say don't switch things up on game day.

So don't switch up the music that you listen to. If you're listening to music during training and you're going to try to use it during your event, listen to the same music, don't try something new. And we say that for anything like with game day don't be trying like new foods, don't be trying like new routines or things like that, that [00:11:00] you haven't been training.

So if you're going to be using this for, For stuff like that, then I would say keep that. That's just something that popped in my head. Keep the music the same. My killing comfort recommendation here. Do we do that now? Or do we do

Jerred: that? Let's go for it. Okay

Kyle: um, I can save it to the end with everybody else's.

Jerred: That's what I'm all ears. You've been wearing the killing comfort shirt. So yeah,

Kyle: so I'm already in the mindset, I would say. During your training, obviously not if you're doing an event or something, but during your training, I would say switch up the kind of music that you're listening to. Or no, that's not what I was gonna say.

You can do that, but I would say do it the way that they did it in the study. So the way that I typically do music is I just have the music playing and it's just playing the whole time. But the way they did in this study, they only did it during the warm up sets and they only did it in between sets.

So I would say if you're the kind of person who's just listening to the music all the time, I would say,[00:12:00] get out of your comfort zone a little bit and actually go and turn it off when you're doing your work in sets and only listen to it in between sets and see if that changes things up for you.

Just mimic what they did in the study instead of just listening to it. The entire time, because I know when I'm like, when I'm listening to music during the training session there's times when like my brain just zones out and I don't hear it anymore. And so it's just it's not even on anyway.

And so I don't know, just be a little more intentional and focus a little bit more when you're actually getting up, getting ready to do your set, turn it off and actually be a little more intentional and focused on exactly what you're doing. I think I just threw out our entire routine for the podcast during my thing.

Yep. Sorry about that. Anyway, Ashley,

Jerred: I

Ashley: said the study or the science backs up my favorite tool for training, which is music. And I love it. And then I just. Because of the warmups, [00:13:00] it made me think of, it, I, all of us have played sports, competitively or, in high school and stuff, and it made me think of my sophomore year for varsity soccer.

We, our coach was really awesome. It was like, okay, you can pick what music you want to warm up to. It obviously can't have any language or anything on it. And so we all came up with this like list of hype music that we wanted to listen to. And, it, We always thought it was like the coolest thing ever to do our silly soccer warmups and sing along to whatever song it was.

But I agree with you, Kyle, in the fact that I've used this because for CrossFit competitions, sometimes they have the loud music in the back, but you can't really hear it because people are yelling and screaming and doing all sorts of stuff. So I've actually taken my headphones, like noise cancelling headphones.

and put on like a song that I know will get me pumped. Listen to it. And then right before it was time for me and my partner, because I never ever did anything individual, take my headphones off, go out, and do the workout. And,[00:14:00] I don't know if, it was a mixture of go, because it was a CrossFit competition, but also potentially even the music that helped.

But it, it proved like that there was more reps, there was more velocity, more power output you name it. My killing comfort, is if you are a no music kind of person, or let's say I don't care if you listen to a podcast or whatnot, then maybe try out music. Clearly, it doesn't hurt you and then just find something that, You can tolerate.

I know some people, have certain genres that they like better. And See what it does to your training and see if it makes your training

Jerred: better. All right. Yeah. So take away nine out of the 10 lifters in the study performed more reps in the music condition. So I think that we revealed the takeaway.

The study found that listening to music during the warmup in between. Sets improve bench press, repetition, performance, barbell velocity, empower and motivation to train in [00:15:00] trained men. We have no evidence that this works in women at all, Ashley. It works. All right. Yeah, I think the study was really simple.

And the takeaway is very clear, and I think it doesn't really take a scientific study for people to realize whether or not music helps them. How I use music is similar to this condition, like I'll listen to it during the lift as well, but I only get serious about the music I'm listening to if I am going for a PR or something that's going to take a little bit more mental focus.

Otherwise It's just funny to have this pointed out to me recently, my brother, I've mentioned my brother's training with me now he came over in the first several sessions, I just had no music on, and we were doing like really hard intervals one day, and he was like, do you mind if we just turn on some music, because I have a I literally just have a speaker sitting in my garage that's like easily used, and he, and I was like, oh, yeah, dude, we can, And You can literally play whatever you want.

Like I don't care. So now I am [00:16:00] listening to music almost every time that I train, but it's not something I normally do in training, like training, but I will pick songs that I really like if I'm going, uh, for hard, really hard intervals on the track, or if I'm, yeah, I use it a lot when lifting and things like that.

And just so everyone knows, I've Googled it, electric powwow drum. By a tribe called Red, it has 133 beats per minute, so it meets the threshold for Which part?

Ashley: When it gets good. I will say you put on country during the time I came to

Jerred: do Murph with you. This is how much I don't care about music because I'll just play whatever. I had

Ashley: to, I love country. There's a time and a place for country, but not during Murph. So I had to go and grab my headphones.

Jerred: That's right.

I asked my brother, I was like, what do you want to listen to? I'm like, I don't care at all. I like Texas country. If anyone out there, not for working out. I just have to throw [00:17:00] a disclaimer that it's only Texas country, not Tennessee country. All other types of country I hate, so just so we're clear on that.

Like the commercialized. Yeah, all other country I hate. If you don't know what Texas country is, that's fine. You're not in Texas. It's whatever. But I, yeah, I'll listen to that. I'll listen to some Taylor Swift. I'll listen to Oh, no. Electric Pow Wow Drum by A Tribe Called Red. I'll listen to NF.

I won't listen to Metallica. I don't know why I can't do heavy metal. I just I've never liked heavy metal ever in my whole life. And I can't do Taylor Swift. Yeah, I can. I can do just about anything true. If anything, I would probably gravitate more towards rap. If that would be like my. My Metallica.

I can dig that. Kyle is to Metallica as Jared is to rap. NF. Yeah, all nF probably. I'm good with that. Yeah, I'm good with that. Used to be Eminem. Eminem's so good occasionally. When your kids aren't around. Yeah, [00:18:00] NF is, that's a big reason NF works so well. It's because if the children are around, it's okay, I can keep listening to music.

I guess I'll go with a killing comfort recommendation. And I'm going to go both ways. I think. I think there's a lot of benefit of training without music. So even though this is the opposite of the study, I would say try some hard things without music and listen to yourself chatter a little bit.

If you are a person who kind of relies on music being streamed into your consciousness at every second of the training session, try some some quiet training sessions and then everyone else use it in a very dialed in approach. Kind of Kyle's recommendation for this is Try to be methodical about how you're using the music in your in a training session.

Joe mentioned there was some debate about whether or not this could help with wonder at max performance. I think that it can as well. Every wonder at max I probably hit in a very similar fashion to what Joe mentioned. But the bigger picture here is if it's increasing your power, velocity, [00:19:00] repetition, volume, all these things, you're going to get stronger.

So maybe it doesn't help with your scientifically help with your one rep max in today's session, but using it in training will help with your one rep max over a longer period of time. So I don't see any downsides other than maybe headphone volume level damaging your hearing. So that's the only downside.

So Just get a speaker in your garage. They used headphones, so if you want to stay scientific, you gotta use headphones. Okay. Joe, do you have a way that we can kill comfort with the study? I guess

Joe: I alluded to it earlier, and it's not something that I would even want to do, but I guess if you really want to do it, what they had to do, and that was listen to the same song on loop.

Yes. So find your 120 beats. Song on loop, and then I'm sorry that you might hate that song. Oh yeah, see? That's

Kyle: it. Flower by

Jerred: Moby. It won't be your song for very long. No matter how much you love it. [00:20:00] I don't know. I beg to differ on that. Oh, okay, wow, you got a song that you could just Every month.

That's what I was

Ashley: saying. Just like you. I have like songs, if I'm going for a PR, if it's a lift, I have certain songs that I

Jerred: go for. But yeah, you've pulled them out of the toolbox. It's not but I could

Ashley: probably listen to them over and over again. There's a reason they're my

Jerred: songs. Oh wow. What were you talking about?

Kyle: Listening to the same song on loop for every training session

Jerred: every day for an entire cycle. I was

Joe: gonna say at least one day. One day, like one entire training session every day for an entire cycle.

Jerred: That's ultimate killing comfort. That's next level. All right. Have the song on loops whole, right?

Start of a new cycle. I'm gonna try it. One song I'll let the community pick too. No. Oh no. Don't do that. . Oh, here we go. Sorry. All right, let's let's get to the book review. So this, the book is Fiber Fueled as I mentioned towards the beginning by Dr. Will Bulsiewicz. I [00:21:00] practiced a lot. on that name before I got here.

You're crushing it. All further mentions of his name will be Dr. B. Just so we're clear. That's how he refers to himself. Yeah, so might as well. So the book uncovers how to transform your health by optimizing your gut microbiome. Just a quick, what is the book, and I'm just reading the description here.

This is not my, what I think of the book necessarily, but a bold new plant based plan that challenges popular keto and paleo diets from an award winning gastroenterolo gastroenterologist. The benefits of restrictive diets like paleo and keto have been touted for more than a decade. But as we've, as we now have Dr.

B, he'll illuminate in this groundbreaking book, the explosion of studies on the microbiome and how it makes it abundantly clear that elimination diets are in fact hazardous to our health. What studies clearly now show and what Dr. B preaches with his [00:22:00] patients is that gut health is the key to boosting our metabolism, balancing our hormones and taming the inflammation that causes a host of diseases and the scientifically proven way to fuel our guts.

is with dietary fiber from an abundant variety of colorful plants. And then my basic plot summary of the book, this is just what I, you guys could, whatever, is fix your gut, fix everything, fiber is a major player. I feel like that's what he's trying to get. Just like most anyone else. So we'll get into our critiques and praise.

So let's go with I don't know. Let's get some negativity out of the way. Let's go negative of the book from each each team member. Kyle, what'd you think? Negative on the first.

Kyle: Okay. Negatives of the book. It's going to be hard for me to. Do this without talking about the

Jerred: positives first.

I was going to come back to positives. We'll

Kyle: come back. I was prepared [00:23:00] to go positive first and then go negative, but

Ashley: a long list of dislikes. So I feel like you

Jerred: can just go for it. It's going to be uh, okay. I'm going to put you on the clock too. We're a minute, we're a minute into your critiques right now.

Kyle: Alright yeah, and I haven't even said anything. Okay, obviously, so this is, in case it wasn't clear from what Jared was talking about, this is all about a plant based diet, being on a plant based diet. Basically, the guy, Dr. B himself, is a vegan, so he's 100 percent plant based. He doesn't recommend necessarily recommend that everybody go 100 percent plant based, but I feel from the way that he wrote the book.

It is pretty clear that he actually does think that he thinks that you should be 100 percent plant based, even though he doesn't just outwardly

Jerred: say that you should. He In between the lines. It's in between the lines that, that there is, like It was

Joe: like a backhanded compliment when he talked about meat.

That's how it felt every time.

Jerred: [00:24:00] Yeah, so Just his steak story, Oh my god. Just to note I agree with that critique. He was he doesn't come right out and say it but then, when he talks about meat in one portion of the book, he talks about whether or not you should have the cleaner meats, the organic, grass fed, all that stuff, or whatever, and he's yeah, I guess you should.

He's but that's asking me whether or not you should have chewing tobacco or smoking cigarettes, and I'm like, alright, dude you were unbiased until that one statement, but I'll get into more, but yeah.

Kyle: So because of that, to me, he contradicted some of the, quite a bit, quite a few of the things that we've covered recently and just my nutritional philosophy in general.

And so my I refer to myself as like a nutritional agnostic. I'm not somebody who like sticks to one specific thing and that's the one thing that's good for everybody. And I don't think that

Jerred: you have one thing you don't do though. And that's vegan.

Kyle: That's vegan. I don't do vegan, but it, anyway.

I don't do vegan because I don't, it doesn't work for me. But I'm not saying that it [00:25:00] doesn't work for other people. I'm not saying it doesn't work for other people. I'm saying that I don't want to. There you go. Let's be real. It doesn't work for me because I don't want to and I wouldn't be able to stick to it because I don't want to.

Jerred: Anyway. Not a functional work. It doesn't work out in your life.

Kyle: And I think that's a big piece of nutrition is I feel like you need to enjoy eating. And I think that's what a lot of like fad diets and a lot of just dieting in general, it makes people hate eating. And that's why they don't stick to it is because they're having to eliminate things and they're having to, they feel like they have to make a bunch of big changes all at once.

And that's not true, but they do that and then they wind up hating it. And so then they get off of it because, and they don't see results because they quit. Because they hate it. And so I just feel like that's anyway. So I just kinda, I'm always wary and take it with a grain of salt. When somebody clearly thinks that this is the one way that people should do something.

And I just, I don't believe that. I think that nutrition is [00:26:00] individualized and should be individualized and what works for one person may not work for another person. That was my biggest thing. Also he he mentioned in there that. That eating this way it makes your fitness effortless.

I didn't really, he wasn't really clear. On what he meant by that but he used the words effortless fitness and as he was like touting this way of eating and I wasn't really clear on what he meant by that, but I just felt that kind of threw up a red flag for me because I was like um, I don't really know how fitness can be effortless.

Because if it's

Ashley: effortless, you're going to feel so good on the way that you eat that

Joe: like you lose weight without working out. If you clean your gut kind of thing, maybe actual

Jerred: fitness, the fact that it uses fitness to me means that more what Ashley is saying is that it's it will be like you'll have the energy and so you'll want to do these things.

Probably things that none of us struggle with. So we don't quite understand. Okay that explains a little bit for me. [00:27:00] So I think I've said enough. I'll pass it. I'll pass the book.

So overall critiques. Who's next? Kyle,

Kyle: let's go with Joe. Let's just

Jerred: go ahead and

Joe: get. All right. So to segue from what Kyle's What he was saying about that he lacked clarity on a lot of things There were times where he either glossed over things and didn't say enough detail that I think you should have One section in particular was when he's talking about whole grains gluten lactose Those three things.

He just was like I partially see what he was coming from saying that, people have demonized these three things once they found that there's some bad parts to it. And he was counteracting saying no, there's still good parts to it. But then he was just like, yeah, you should introduce these into your life.

And you're like, Well, you got any more for me? What whole grains? How am I going to find the right ones? Beans, how am I going to cook and prepare the beans? His whole thing on lactose was confusing to me. He went milk is good, but it's also bad. And [00:28:00] lactose has good things, but then you also shouldn't have dairy.

And I was like, where the hell are we going with this, dude? That was the one thing in particular.

Jerred: I do think that I remember that part. What I concluded from that was that he was trying to be Objective not subjective about something like dairy. I think he was trying to talk about both sides of yeah, they found that some of it is good, but ultimately we found a lot of it that is bad.

But then he doesn't, the reason it gets confusing because he doesn't bring you to the, an ultimate conclusion. He's just here's both sides moving on,

Joe: and clarity on that was weird because he did try and do both what do both sides of it. But I just I wasn't sure. I still measure what he was actually trying to say.

The whole grain part. I think that was one of the main one of that is that you could set people up for failure. And this goes back to our marketing terms. Yep, discussion. And I looked them up for marking terms. So for something to be deemed and brand whole grain, a food only needs to have 51 percent of their grains be whole grains.

The rest can be refined [00:29:00] or eight grams of whole grain per serving or A lot of them most don't even get enough or a lot of them still have more refined grains than whole grains and can still be branded whole grains because most people don't get enough whole grains. So their philosophy is some is better than none.

And that's just one thing of if people read this and say, Oh, I need to get whole grains. I'm going to go to the store and look for that branding of whole grains, but he doesn't actually clarify. Or say, okay, when you're going to the store, go look for this. This is what you should be wanting with your whole grains.

And then even in his little guide, like when his little color chart, it says whole grains. So that was one of them as well. Leaving out some information, beans and legumes. He just says, hey, all these things, good things about legumes and beans. But when you tell somebody that, guess what? They're going to go to the store and buy the can of beans.

They're not going to. By the dry beans and soak them like you show they're not gonna cook them in a pressure cooker They're not gonna actually do cook [00:30:00] them the right way Soy, I won't even get into you. I don't know if that might be Ashley's thing But so that was a big one is those things that he mentioned I think he needed to give more about it like I could see he has some might have some good stances to it but he just Doesn't say enough whether he didn't look more into it or not.

I'm not sure. Let's see. There was an example that he had from, and I just want to point this out, from, remember the Tanzanian tribe example that he had? There was a indigenous tribe from Tanzania that eats all these vegetables and all these fibers and they are super healthy. You remember the last book we had, they had a tribe from Tanzania, who were predominantly eat meat eaters, the Maasai, same country, same situation, they're cut off from Western cultures, completely meat diet.

So it's just one of those cherry picking. I don't want to say [00:31:00] cherry picking information, but it was just one of those examples where I because you could say the same thing for why we get sick and this just toots the horns of deep nutrition because of how she executed all those things.

But that's a whole different thing. So some of the examples that was just an example of one of some of his examples were a little bit tailored to the point that he was making, which I guess could happen with a lot of books anyway. And then the final one that I'll just end on this one, is toward the very end of the book, he was talking about how it was related to his steak story.

And he goes through and he was saying how crappy his diet was before, and then he did all this plant stuff and he ate all this fiber and then he went to the doctor and lost 40 pounds and was like, oh my God, I'm down to my college weight. I haven't weighed this much since college. And he said, all thanks to plants.

And I was like, dude, you literally just said you were drinking two to three Red Bulls a day, being at Jersey Mike's two to three times a week, you were super stressed and staying up late. That's not thanks to plants, man. I know [00:32:00] there's a big part of it that helped, but you just boiled everything down to hey, plants are gonna fix my life.

And he might not have meant it that way, but this is just after a while in this book, his jabs that he takes that we've mentioned started adding up to me. And I just started getting a little bothered by more that he said. But these are just some of the things that if you hear it, I think are misleading.

He came off as misleading in a nutshell as to a lot of things that he said and lacked some clarity. But now I'm going to turn it over to Ashley, because I should stop.

Jerred: Don't worry people, we will get to the praise of the book. Yes, we're getting to the good parts. We're getting to the

Joe: good parts.

Ashley: So I don't really have too many negatives on the book.

Because I think when you're reading, what we've all alluded to, when you're reading something like this, you have to take it with Not this guy's one way is everyone's one way. And so what I like to do is read it, and what can I take away from this, and then what can I [00:33:00] try? But if I am going to critique a little bit, I will say he talks about gluten and obviously a lot of people know I'm gluten free, and he gave criteria of how, why you should go gluten free.

Now if you have no issues with, Digesting gluten and you are eating, sprouted bread or something that is, or like whole grains that, and again, sorry Joe, I'm just using that term, but that is not processed and refined. Then, and if you can process it, then it's fine. But he gave the criteria of if you only had celiac, and I forget what his, he had one more criteria there was only two different reasons why you should go gluten free.

But I would argue that there are potential other reasons why sometimes people go gluten free. And it's doctor recommended, mine is functional recommended, mine was from a holistic Endocrinologist, and it clearly showed that it was causing inflammation with my thyroid. And I did not agree with that but it doesn't mean that I'm like,[00:34:00] I guess it didn't really infuriate me.

I guess is what I'm trying to say. Yeah I guess that would be my one big takeaway from that. I agree with Joe. I'm in the camp of he should have maybe dove into These are where you find your whole grain substances and what you should, he talks about it. He talks about brown rice and quinoa and stuff like that.

Like he, he talks about where where that should come from. When he talks about the grains.

Jerred: I can guarantee if you asked him, he's not going to be like, yeah, the lucky charms that says it has whole grains in it. For sure. Yeah. He just lacked clarity, but I guarantee he's not.

Ashley: And that's not where I think he should, but unfortunately, if you're reading this book and you have a diet like he does, what are you going to look for?

You're going to look for stuff that is saying, whole grains and whatnot, hopefully our listeners, especially talking about the marketing terms, are going to be a little smarter than that. But yeah, it can be a little bit misleading. Jared. What are your critiques?

Jerred: Very minimal.

I had Just similar to what kyle said a pretty hard vegan slant. He tried to hide it. This this [00:35:00] is going to turn into backhanded praise though because i've read a lot of vegan books I'm pretty interested in the vegan diet, not for something that I want to do. But there's not a more popular diet out there that has as much scientific research.

So it's, there's no way I can't be incredibly well educated on the vegan diet and work with athletes. Like I just, especially I think over the next five to 10 years, we might be encountering athletes with a lot of vegan preferences. And Since I don't care about preferences, your preferences, I don't have a one way fits best.

I want to know as much as I can about every area. So I feel like of the vegan books I've read, he did his best job to remain objective. But it's if you had A religious person who had a very clear religious stance, and they tried to write an objective book, but you're going to see that it bleed behind the lines a little bit that they have a specific belief in, a religion or a specific religion, even if they tried to [00:36:00] remain objective, and I think that's yes, I'm comparing veganism to a religion because that's how hard people can believe these things at times, but he ultimately probably believes that, Being a vegan is the best thing for the planet.

It's the best thing for your body. And he had a pretty hard vegan stamp. Overall, his takeaway was try and be plant based 90 percent of the time, 10 percent of the time, do whatever you want, which I think is really good. So that was my only critique. Pretty hard vegan slant, but overall not near as bad as other vegan books that I have encountered.

So let's get into some praise for the book right now. Hopefully everyone's still listening because if you only, if you ended there, you wouldn't read the book. And I absolutely love this book. So let's get into some of the praise for the book. We're just going to same order. Kyle, you have anything good to say about this book?

I do.

Kyle: I have plenty, plenty good to say about the book. So as I, one of the things that I really enjoyed in is he actually really focuses on eating whole [00:37:00] foods. That's he's. I know that he used the same marketing terms that we've talked about and things like that. And again, I just like Joe, I do wish that he had gone a little bit deeper on that just for people who this might be the only book that they read about it and it would have been great to go a little bit deeper on.

clarifying what he meant by that. But if you read the entire book it's pretty clear that he's talking about eating whole foods. He's not talking about eating Lucky Charms, he's not talking about really, he's not even talking about eating Wheaties, or anything like he's talking about eating whole foods.

And so I do like that because that's. Pretty much anytime we talk about nutrition on here. That's my takeaway. And I think that's just our philosophy here at Garage Man Athlete is you need to eat whole foods. And he also recommends a highly varied diet. He recommends eating a lot of different plants, a lot of different foods, it needs to be varied. One of his chapters, I think it's called eat the rainbow or something like that, just talking about eating different colors, and, making your plate colorful because you [00:38:00] have different kinds of plants on there. And eating highly varied diet plant based obviously.

And then eating whole foods. I think I really liked that. And I also like that he paints it as a lifestyle, especially in the very end of the book, he paints it as a lifestyle, not as a diet. He's no, I'm not giving you a new diet. I'm giving you Habitual changes to make, which is something else that we talk about on here.

A lot is it's not about it's not about it's you should be focused on making small changes over time. And he even specifically recommends that changing 1 small thing at a time, instead of just dumping everything and trying, trying something completely different, do something small over time and just make those changes over time until you get to what he, as Jared alluded to what he recommends is his 90, 10, 90 percent plant based, 10%, whatever you want make those small changes to get there, but make it a lifestyle.

Don't just make it a dot. Don't think of it as a diet. Think of it as. This is just how I live and this is what I [00:39:00] do to be, to have a fulfilled life and a vibrant life. And this is just the way that I think and the way that I eat because it matches up with my lifestyle. I did like those things about the book is he's not just, he's not giving you.

And even at the end, like it's a four week plan that he gives you, it's not like a um, and it didn't even really seem like typical diet plans that you get. It was pretty much just. Change small things over time and until you eventually get to this point where you're 9010 and and I enjoyed that.

I enjoyed that about the book as well. Same order, Joe.

Jerred: So first,

Joe: I'll start off with, a little context. This isn't good or bad, and it's just. The fact that, when we go over all of these different nutrition books, they're always going to have their scope and their lens of what they're directly aimed toward.

And this one is gut health. So in the past two months, we've done other ones that have directed other things and there's always good takeaways for them all. So gut health 100 percent to a gastroenterologist and gut health is It's [00:40:00] so awesome and underrepresented and things that we try and talk about.

And it's, there's not a lot of science to go over, like whether it's us looking at studies or books, just cause it's still fairly new. I've only read one other book geared toward gut health. I think it was called the microbiome solution and it was also really good and has, but a really science heavy.

So this is a really good, easily digestible book on. Improving your gut health. And I've tried to help. No pun intended. I know, right? It's, it always happens. I've tried to help a lot of family members of hey, you really need to clean up your gut and you need to really, do all these things, but it's hard to convey and take the easiest steps of what to do.

It's. Normally it's eliminating things, tell them to eliminate stuff and eat clean, but this has really easy practical application. If you just take the cliff notes of this and like his page of, the eat the rainbow and get all these vegetables in is fantastic, easy advice [00:41:00] and how he, like Kyle said, how he puts it to, you need to make these changes for long periods of time and it's just really easy to get all it in.

A lot of his vegetables. Yeah, we've already been eating a long time. So it's good to see that. And it took us several books, several a long time to put the diet in that list I eat. And it's all basically in this one. So like we in my scramble that I've talked about before for the last three years, I've had Brussels sprouts and three other kinds of vegetables in it.

And but it if. Didn't come as clear, is that like this book right here or his examples of what you should eat and how you should plan out your day the fact that you know have give yourself one point for each different vegetable you have for you know each day and have these points add up to a certain amount for a certain period of time is Just a great guidance and great advice especially to the people out there that might meal prep [00:42:00] And when they meal prep every week, they're making the same one or two vegetables and the same piece of chicken.

And it's yep, I'm eating the same thing every day for lunch for five months, five years. Because I know the macros of it and I'm fine, but that's not any diversity. So this is an easy and good way to incorporate those. And his. He does have a a couple of decent as he's going through his examples and stories have good like caveats going along.

I didn't write pretty all of them now because this time I'm just listening, but a lot of his caveats to all of his examples were good as well. Now I'm going to go over to Ashley.

Ashley: So I'm in the camp of I love this book. I think it's great. The fact that it got our team to even talk about it for the last, what, three days on, on our group chat.

It clearly has got us thinking. And obviously there was positives and negatives to it, but I think that's the whole point. We needed to focus on Yeah. Fiber and what kind of what Joe was talking about and how that affects our gut. I [00:43:00] love the way he explains what microbes are and bacteria.

Bacteria is not necessary a negative thing. I think when people hear the word bacteria, they think it's a bad thing. And he describes like what happens when your bacteria is, in sync versus in whack. And then what that does to you and how that even affects your body. Like even your brain, like brain fog and all sorts of.

issues that you have can relate to your gut. And then I agree with Joe and Kyle, the variety that he talks about. He gives you F goals at the very end. I love that he talks about that it is a growth mindset that you, again, have to start slow. And he talks low and slow, is what he said. He's not expecting you to just dive right in what Joe was saying, just take something that you don't normally eat, like me, I was like broccoli sprouts, what are broccoli sprouts, and he talked about that, but yeah, or like last night, Jared posted a picture of him eating beets, I'm like, man, when's the last time I've eaten some beets, like, how, and, You just need to, what Joe said get out of the box and, try [00:44:00] something new, whether that be the vegetables or just variety within your meals.

So my takeaways, from this are, for our graduate gym athletes listening, is maybe not, I'm not saying go vegan. But maybe focus on the vegetables and like your servings of vegetables that you get. For me, for, I have a functional nutritionist and one of my goals is getting two servings of vegetables per meal, per day.

That's six total servings of vegetables. And then plan your meals around. That, then add your, meat that is not processed, your whole grains, whether that be rice, quinoa, potatoes, and that's the other thing I loved, he talked about we always put these things in these camps, good food, bad food, and it's like he's trying to eliminate that we need to get out of this mindset it's not just good and bad, different foods do different things to your body yeah.

Yeah, I could talk a whole lot more about this book, but just for time's sake, I'll let Jared go

Jerred: next. Oh yeah, so overall, I think he did a phenomenal job. I [00:45:00] mentioned this to, to you guys and I'll just say it on the podcast. Emily and I have picked up a lot of gut health tactics and strategies over the years, but it's been like here and there.

And he hit on every single one of them in the book. And yes, gut health is insanely important. So I think everyone should read this book for that reason alone. There's not a lot of information. I think he mentioned some sort of stat about like how 80 percent of the research has been done in the last couple of years of all the studies that exist on gut health have been done in the last couple of years prior to the 60 years before that, on the first published study.

So we're learning a lot about gut health and how important it really is. And I think that this is only going to explode even more. Over the next couple of years, so getting your gut health in check is a major deal for athletes, and I've never to be honest, I didn't know jack about fiber, like the only information in my brain about fiber was how it may not have as much of an insulin response and like net carbohydrates and things like just like real base level information on fiber.

So [00:46:00] I've never had a deep dive on fiber before and how beneficial it can be to your overall health. Yeah. And I think it's just a really solid book. And I just want to talk about how I'm processing nutritional information these days because I think we've all heard that saying if all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail.

Something like that. It's called the law of the instrument. And it's a cognitive bias that involves an over reliance on a familiar term. Bickman, he studies insulin. His book is about insulin. Insulin is the key. Sugar Crush. He, the dude amputates people's feet because they have diabetes.

Obviously, his answer is get rid of sugar. This guy, he's a gastroenterologist. Gut is the answer. And I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's obviously what he's going to do. Kate Shanahan, oils, inflammation are killing you. Oils are the thing. Everyone has their one thing, right? And so what I'm really trying to look at, if we're just talking about Venn diagrams, I'm paying, I'm only paying attention to the intersection of what all these people are [00:47:00] saying, I don't really care what anyone is saying.

I only care about the intersection of what everyone is saying. And this is where the Venn diagrams start to overlap. And where the Venn diagrams are overlapping for me from everything that I'm reading, fruits and vegetables. Not a lot of debate there unless you're carnivore. Carnivore people are making ridiculous arguments that there are chemicals and plants that are killing us.

I just can't get on board. Maybe I'll be proven wrong one day in 150 years after I'm dead. But right now, I don't think that'll happen. Fruits and vegetables. To fasting for some reason everyone in almost every camp is starting to agree with fasting to some degree, not aggressive fasting, but like just a digestive break at a minimum.

Almost every book is starting to agree with that gut health. I think in every circle, everyone is saying that's okay. Refined oils, bad oils. That's in there from like Kate Shanahan where that was her main thing, but I feel like everyone's starting to agree with that. And then the one that everyone agrees with is anything in not in moderation in excess.

Like if it's in [00:48:00] excess, it's probably bad and it doesn't really matter what it is. Yeah, carrots are good. A hundred carrots a day, probably bad. Two thousand calories for you, probably fine. Five thousand calories for you, probably not good. They're just, these are the things that the five that I came up with having read a lot of nutrition books, that's where things are starting to intersect for me and I'm okay with all those things.

And I'm also, I'm dairy free, so I'm probably vegan like three or four times out of the month. And I don't even realize it because when you're when you eliminate dairy, you're danger close to vegan, like it's like you're eating a lot of fruits and vegetables and the only thing that you're I don't I just lost interest in eggs like I'm just not eating a lot of eggs.

So the only animal source I really have now is meat. So if I have a meatless dinner or something like that, or it just didn't pop up like I'm vegan that day on accident, that doesn't happen to most people. That's why I'm not like So anti vegan just because I'm, I feel like I'm so [00:49:00] damn close to it anyway, other than one serving of meat, probably a day, maybe two dependent on the day.

And so I don't think it's a necessarily a bad approach and a thought provoking question I had with Emily after we went through this book was if we had to pick one diet for the rest of our lives and the options are. Ridiculously hardcore strict in ketosis keto or vegan, which one would we pick?

And we both would pick vegan over keto, any day of the week. Cause I think keto is, uh, that's about as extreme as you can get, right? And so is vegan if you were to choose between paleo and vegan. It's still a hard, it's not easy for me because I think that paleo does some stuff incorrectly and there's so many like variations of paleo now, like there's, oh those grains are okay because we were wrong in the first place and dairy is actually okay if it's fermented because we were wrong in the first place.

I don't like the whole direction. Paleo is gone. It's too convoluted. I feel [00:50:00] like the diets almost lost my respect, even though a lot of the principles I agree with of let's eat fruits and vegetables, clean meats and these things. But some of the things that they wanted to exclude at the beginning, maybe they shouldn't anymore.

It's like with CrossFit tries to back pedal on high intensity one day. Yeah, you shouldn't be doing that every day. It's okay, that's literally the definition of what you do, but that's fine. So anyway, yeah, I think it's a great book. Let's get into our rating where we can jump into the workout.

So on a one to five barbell rating, fractional plates allowed. Kyle, where'd you end up with this book?

Kyle: I'm going to give it three and a half barbells. All right. Just because I think there are some things in it that were like, like I talked about just the kind of hard vegan slant and I just stay away from anything that's like trying to tell me this is the one way.

And that was in there a little bit and it contradicted some other things, but I do think the overall premise is good and people should listen and pay attention and and implement, listen, pay attention [00:51:00] and implement. You do need to eat your veggies, go out there and do it.

Joe: Four out of five for me. One of the things that I thought of as Ashley was talking and that was another section that I thought was really awesome and also goes in line with the marketing terms that I talked about was the pre pro and post biotic section because probiotic is like the hot topic word or hot word that's going on everything but most of that stuff isn't going to work anyway so that was a really good section as well four out of five gut health is fantastic to get right just you know sift through some of his jabs And clarity issues.

Jerred: Ashley. Ashley.

Ashley: I'm going to go 4. 25 then, since you did 4 out of 5. I love my fractional plates. No, it was a really great book, and I think great takeaways overall, and like we said really easy. Simple, but not easy to implement, lots of simple ways to [00:52:00] do it and take variety, but yeah.

Jared, what's yours?

Jerred: I'm gonna give it five barbells. Bring it in strong. Whoa! Yeah, I think I don't really care so much about the jabs. That doesn't offend me personally. And here's my take on like the individualized nutrition. We take that stance as a company and that's what we believe. Like you should individualize your nutrition, but I'm hoping that there's a day where there is a right answer to what you should be doing.

And I'm not saying that will be vegan, but I would love to find, I would love for them to continue to do research and find out, yes, it's okay to eat. Fish and a lot of fruits and vegetables, and these, there are a lot of studies backing up that exact statement, things like that, but I'd love to keep diving down that road.

The only thing I know for a fact is what my diet looks like today will change and my opinions on nutrition will continue to change and I won't have a, I do this because I've always done it mentality ever, if we find something out like we were having these discussions about meat, like processed meat, there's nothing promising about processed meat coming out.

At all. [00:53:00] Period. So if you're like, you wanna go crush some sausage and bacon or whatever that's fine. Keep doing it. Try and buy the healthiest version of that thing you can, but still. It's not, the science is not leaning in your direction, so you're making that choice because you just enjoy it.

And it's comfortable for you. And so you have to start making some hard choices in nutrition. And a lot of these things will keep popping up. And you have to get the perspectives from everywhere. You can't get the perspectives from a paleo guy. You can't get the perspectives from a vegan guy.

You have to get it from everywhere. And you'll land somewhere in these intersection points about what's probably okay, but we're not going to know for sure. So that rounds us out at an average of 4. 2. For the team, which is pretty good. And we'll get into the workout. Kyle. Broken

Kyle: arrow.

So the buy in with a vest, if you have it, it's a 150 squats, a hundred pushups, 50 strict pull ups, there's no partitioning in the buy in you have to do it in that order. Then after [00:54:00] you do the buy in, you're going to bike for 10 miles. You're going to run for three miles. And you're going to do a thousand double unders after that, you're going to cash out, no vest on the cash out, and you're going to just repeat it.

The 150 squats, the a hundred pushups and then 50 pull ups. And again, uh, no partitioning kipping is allowed on the cash out pull ups, not on the buy in pull ups. And we have scaling available as well for established athletes. But. I believe the recommendation here is that no vest if you're established to recruit level vest only for competitors and we have scaling available and if you do not have a bike, you can row.

If you do not have a bike or a rower, you will double the run distance no matter which one you're doing.

Jerred: And if you don't want to run, don't do the workout. If you don't

Kyle: want to run or can't run, don't do the workout. Do a different [00:55:00] workout. That's our

Jerred: official recommendation. 40 minutes of burpees. Yeah, 40

Kyle: minutes of burpees.

Okay, no. Anyway, alright, that's it.

Jerred: Alright, tips and tricks. I'm going with a challenge this time.

Kyle: Okay, cool. My tip is don't die. And based on our study from today, Metallica.

Jerred: Whoa!

Joe: Metallica. I don't think you can do Metallica for 90 to, 90 minutes to 2 hours.

Jerred: I absolutely could. Yeah, I was like, you definitely could.

For me, not a challenge. one of their songs is? Yeah, I

Kyle: was gonna say. For me, not a challenge. For other people,

Jerred: maybe a challenge.

Ashley: One is one of their longest

Jerred: songs, but I don't know. Like three songs, hour and a half later. Ashley.

Ashley: Yeah, every time I think of this workout I absolutely love We Were Soldiers, and it just makes me think of when he just announces Broken Arrow, and yeah it stinks, so it's I'm not gonna lie, and I love hard workouts, but this one stinks, I had to do it on the [00:56:00] rower, because I don't have a bike, I still don't have a bike, so maybe that's what I need to do but, it's, it I said, listen to something that just keeps you moving, just keep moving, even if it's at a slower pace just try and get and finish this one.

It's going to take, it's a longer one take that into account and please warm up beforehand. Sweet Moses, warm up beforehand. Okay, that's my tip. Joe?

Joe: You're going to need to stay in like the upper zone three. For most of it to low zone four, because you're going to be doing this for 90 plus minutes if you're dependent on what your version is, and don't be afraid to scale as well, because you're going to be going on two plus hours or something, so it doesn't hurt to scale at all, whether it's one of the movements or the double unders or whatever.

Yeah, this is a pacing workout, which probably why I don't mind it as much. Although when we did half broken arrow on Murph burner, I think that was the hardest day. It's also ungodly hot [00:57:00] here, so that was just also bad, but pace 100%. And honestly, you might need some fuel during, so if you normally work out fasted, you're probably going to need a little fuel up either right before or during, like after you get back from that run or something, get a little, um, just a little.

Quick carb or something indie, whatever you have don't just have a snack, but yeah, those are my recommendations. Cause you're probably going to be depleted and crashed and

Jerred: sweet potato, eat a sweet potato in the middle or

Joe: drink some OJ. Yeah. Are we against juice? I'm sorry. Demonizing the last

Jerred: couple of books.

I am against juice. Do you want to talk about it? No, because

Joe: I'll still drink orange juice, but not like very

Jerred: much. Oh, all I was gonna go against juice as well. By the way, I am against juice. I'm not kidding. But yeah, it's whatever. Dr. B is to we don't have to go there. [00:58:00] Challenge for this one. I Joe actually stole my challenge unknowingly.

I so I'll go with two. One, try and stay in zone three, the entire workout. Like we have zone two challenges or workouts. This one, I want you to try and stay in zone three the entire time. In this one, I would be able to go to zone four and hold it for a very long time. But I'm, I don't want to do that.

I don't. That may be a portion of it, maybe towards the end, use your zone four powers or zone five powers to, to finish it up, but try to see what zone three feels as you're going through the workout and you might feel that this, that's a good pace and that's I'm trying to introduce people to their race pace of zone three, which meet yourself Saturday really is more of a testing day and meet yourself day.

So if you want to bring it to that zone four or zone five towards the end to do it, but just don't start there, don't be there in the middle of the workout. And then my challenge for if you've done this workout before, bump it up a level. So if you didn't recruit last time, go to [00:59:00] established. If you did establish last time, go to competitor and just time cap yourself where you feel appropriate.

And tip is. Go back in time eight weeks and start doing a lot of double unders, so your calves aren't fried, but That's what I was gonna say,

Ashley: it's like, how do you stay in zone three with double

Jerred: unders? It's peaks and valleys. Yeah, you just do ten at a time, or, whatever won't spike your heart rate too high.

It'd take

Ashley: me an hour to do a thousand double unders if I do ten at a time

Jerred: and then stop. Yeah, beat yourself though, wouldn't you? Even Which is

Joe: the point. Even doing them in sets of hundreds take like 12 minutes

Jerred: or so. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, we're going to move on. We're not going to do any updates today.

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